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I’ve heard some negative things about his political and moral beliefs, but I’m not going to say what, since I don’t know for sure and don’t want to assume.

3:48 AM

Still, I very much dislike him, and would be very careful listening to his advice in any way.

I don’t care if people want to be sexual with tulpamancy but to make it all about sex is disgusting. He makes it out to seem like a tulpa’s only purpose is to make the host happy and sex. They are glorified sex toys in his eyes. He’s also just a shitty person to interact with in general

3:49 AM

I heard that he’s into Jew x Nazi sex scenes with his tulpas so, yeah, very strange political and moral beliefs

He’s a bit of a “I’m the only admin in this chat so everyone else can shut the fuck up” guy

3:50 AM

I heard that he’s into Jew x Nazi sex scenes with his tulpas so, yeah, very strange political and moral beliefs

@Rusty - jump Yeah. I’ve heard….Nazi shit about him, but I didn’t want to come out and say it lmao.

3:50 AM

No idea if he’s actually a neo-Nazi or anything, but if he’s roleplaying that kind of shit, who knows.

No idea, I don’t think he is but I’m also not really in spaces where that info is spread around. I keep to small corners of the community

3:52 AM

The only direct interaction I’ve had with him he harassed us and called members of my system fake for acting too similar to me and called Error’s personality ‘flat’ and just generally critiqued him as if he was a character I hadn’t fleshed out enough to his liking

3:53 AM

He then got a bunch of strikes in that server because no one took his side and he was clearly the aggressor. He threw a fit and acted like a man baby and banned me from central because it was the only place he had power even though I don’t even use that server and it didn’t affect me at all

He banned us from central too lmao

I have never seen a community have so many good ideas and so many terrible ideas at the exact same time

Was going through serious system drama, asked for help (we were new to the concept of systemhood) and he immediately defaulted to discussing sexual topics.

3:55 AM

Granted, we were 14.

3:56 AM

Even if it did had to do with something sexual or not, the fact he immediately went there shows what tends to be on his mind usually.

Of course he went straight to sex. Tulpas are only sex toys in his mind. He probably doesn’t see the point in it not being sexual

3:58 AM

It’s also super weird that his tulpas have a very innocent childish way about them and he talks down to them all the time.

3:59 AM

Very cutesy, happy, innocent child vibes that says weird sex shit

3:59 AM

And the people around him usually have tulpas that are the same

4:00 AM

And it’s fine to have tulpas like that but like, don’t put the sex part into it?

4:01 AM

I get that they aren’t children but, don’t given them innocent child vibes if they are meant to be adults your having sex with

He’s into some sus kink shit, whether or not it’s morally deplorable or not is subjective, but the sheer volumes of things I’ve heard is a little absurd.

4:01 AM

Like, the main thing I hear about this guy is how horny he is

4:01 AM

That sounds like it should be some sort of wake up call.

He doesn’t have tulpas he has glorified sex toys and he helps other people make glorified sex toys. He’s so high and mighty and judgmental he will actually harass you for not having sex with your tulpa (edited)

It’s not even tulpamancy any more, it’s barely tulpamancy. Tulpamancy and waifumancy should stay seperate, I don’t welcome him into this community lmao.

His tulpa’s main personality trait is ‘horny’ and he thought he was in a position to judge the personalities of people in my system. Error’s only personality trait being ‘edgy’ is a joke, but he doesn’t even have that. That’s legit what they are.

My main personality trait is being “evil” and yet my moral compass is still more functional than his.

Waifumancy isn’t tulpamancy. It should be it’s own thing like how we consider daemons and soulbonds to be their own thing. All thoughtforms, all different communities and purposes.

What should be the defining traits that differ each?

4:08 AM

And by that I mean, functional differences beyond the obvious.

One is a tulpa and the other is a character an incel imagines when he can’t get bitches

4:10 AM

But really, a ‘waifu’ is basically a tulpa in the most basic sense but is severely restricted in order to act as a sexual and romantic partner. They have little to no personality outside of their pre made relationship. Proto tulpas that were never meant to leave that stage.

One is either an imaginary sex doll, or a real sentient being being exploited and manipulated into having its entire life be sex.

4:11 AM

Think about it, even if these tulpas are sentient, all they’ve ever known is sex.

4:11 AM

They’ve literally been groomed from the first moment of their sentience, most likely.

They can never truly be a real sentient person until they are allowed to deviate but a waifumancer doesn’t want that, they want their wife. I’ve seen them actually repeatedly start over because they felt like their current tulpa deviated too far and didn’t give them enough attention. Waifumancers have a very specific goal in mind, usually a pre existing character, and the tulpa is absolutely not allowed to deviate. In my opinion if a tulpa doesn’t ever deviate it’s not a tulpa.

To be fair, we have people in my system who consider themselves “married”, but unlike Kopase and his suck-ups, they formed that relationship over genuine quality time and affection.

4:14 AM

Our longest running couple has been dating for two+ years, they’ve spent that entire time sacrificing their time, energy, and even their health in order to love and be there for the other person in the relationship.

4:15 AM

They didn’t just call it quits when they had relationship issues, they sat down and talked it out, or processed it over time like a healthy couple.

4:15 AM

Where did all the messages go

@aphelion - jump Got buried by us shitting on Kopase. Sorry.

There is nothing wrong with having a romantic or even sexual relationship with your tulpa. What is wrong is making them with the intent of them being a sexual or romantic partner and not allowing them to make that choice or have a life outside of that role

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They didn’t

There is nothing wrong with having a romantic or even sexual relationship with your tulpa. What is wrong is making them with the intent of them being a sexual or romantic partner and not allowing them to make that choice or have a life outside of that role

@Rusty - jump I’m kind of against making tulpas for romance or sex at all, but if you do, at least be willing to drop that goal if they deviate.

4:16 AM

I honestly think it's just as simple as "Intend for a separate person to be being created in your brain, talk to them believing they're listening, and try expecting to hear responses from them"

@Reisen - jump Here.

4:17 AM

Sorry for the ping, Luminescence

Long story short don’t interact with Kopase’s content

4:20 AM

There is a lot of tulpa guides out there, choose one that didn’t have his greasy fingers all over

Basically

Somehow, tupperware seems to avoid pinging users in quotes even when @'ing them (edited)

4:50 AM

Also I'm used to everyone reading it wrong, but my name is just Luminesce (the verb), not Luminescence :V

Oh, I see! Sorry.

Rusty

Long story short don’t interact with Kopase’s content

qrd on why this person is bad?

I don’t care if people want to be sexual with tulpamancy but to make it all about sex is disgusting. He makes it out to seem like a tulpa’s only purpose is to make the host happy and sex. They are glorified sex toys in his eyes. He’s also just a shitty person to interact with in general

@Rusty - jump

5:54 AM

i refuse to elaborate

:stare:

ah ok

why re u still awake!

Good morning, everyone.

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That guide is fine, just ignore the bit about servitors, it was an old myth that you could accidentally make a servitor instead of a tulpa

how much reasearch should i do before making a tulpa? ive done alot but within a short time i really wanna make a tulpa but idk when im ready

What kind of experience are you looking for with a tulpa? @aphelion @🪷

Yuka

That guide is fine, just ignore the bit about servitors, it was an old myth that you could accidentally make a servitor instead of a tulpa

What's a servitor?

Supposedly a thoughtform without sentience or freewill that just performs a programmed task. It's from occult stuff but from a psychological perspective it doesn't mean much. Basically, don't worry about it

Yuka

What kind of experience are you looking for with a tulpa? @aphelion @🪷

just a friendship really

Like just a mental voice in your head that you can talk to?

I wrote a list of things to consider before making a tulpa

4:24 PM

Are you in good mental health? Are you in a stable place in life? Do you have time to dedicate to this practice/lifestyle? Will you research the topic well before starting/as you go? Will you think critically about what others tell you about this topic? Are you genuinely interested in this, or will you quickly lose interest? What tulpamancy goals do you want to achieve, what do you want your daily life with your tulpa to look like? Will they accompany you throughout the day or only in your spare time? Will they switch sometimes, regularly, or maybe a majority of the time? Will you be able to consider and accommodate your tulpa's needs and desires? Sharing a life with your tulpa may include your tulpa spending a significant amount of time switched in the body and they may pursue their own interests, goals, and relationships. How long do you think you will want to have a tulpa? What will happen if you want to find a romantic partner and start a family? Consider what your life might be like in 10, 20, 30+ years Are you dependent on others, ex living with parents which may create challenges such as not having enough privacy or autonomy? Will you be alright keeping this a secret from your friends and family? Will you be okay potentially losing friends/family if they knew about your tulpa? If you have developed a tulpa (or several) for years, and you are now busy with work/family/anything, will you be able to manage? Will this cause guilt or distress over not being able to give them enough time? If you decide you no longer want a tulpa, will you feel guilt over it? What if your tulpa does not want to leave? What if they are too ingrained in your life to easily dissipate?

4:24 PM

. Will you be able to manage your system through obstacles and hurdles in life? This may include conflict between you and your tulpa, or emotional turmoil and mental heath problems which may come from you or your tulpa. Will you be able to manage your system if you encounter walk-ins, or many tempting ideas for new tulpas? If you have many tulpas/walk-ins, do you understand how that will impact your lifestyle long term? Working and married with kids, plus 1 tulpa vs 20 tulpas will be quite different.

Yuka

Like just a mental voice in your head that you can talk to?

yea basically

Yuka

Supposedly a thoughtform without sentience or freewill that just performs a programmed task. It's from occult stuff but from a psychological perspective it doesn't mean much. Basically, don't worry about it

Ah ok

Aya

. Will you be able to manage your system through obstacles and hurdles in life? This may include conflict between you and your tulpa, or emotional turmoil and mental heath problems which may come from you or your tulpa. Will you be able to manage your system if you encounter walk-ins, or many tempting ideas for new tulpas? If you have many tulpas/walk-ins, do you understand how that will impact your lifestyle long term? Working and married with kids, plus 1 tulpa vs 20 tulpas will be quite different.

what is a walk in?

A thoughtform that seems to show up on its own, already vocal. In our view it's best to not add these thoughtforms to one's system and just ignore them. At the very least don't feel obligated to keep them

🪷

what is a walk in?

a walk in is a tulpa that just sorta appears and that you accept as a tulpa (you have to accept it as a tulpa for it to be one, afaik)

berockly (TTG)

a walk in is a tulpa that just sorta appears and that you accept as a tulpa (you have to accept it as a tulpa for it to be one, afaik)

oh wow

4:32 PM

so one day a tulpa i havent created will just show up

no

4:32 PM

but if it does, thats what a walk in is

4:33 PM

expecting them to appear makes them more likely to appear

Yeah, don't expect it to happen

oh wow

Yep, I had about 4 walk-ins

Hello?

Yo

5:17 PM

Got a question?

How do i create a tulpa? Or get them to speak- im still htinking if i even have atulpa, but is there anyw ay to renfoce the creation of you actualy tulpa?-

Have you done any research?

Hermes

How do i create a tulpa? Or get them to speak- im still htinking if i even have atulpa, but is there anyw ay to renfoce the creation of you actualy tulpa?-

They'll start speaking after a while You just need to keep speaking to them, and keeping the idea of them in your mind as you're speaking You can even imagine how they'd respond — this is called parroting. Eventually, they'll start responding on their own without needing you to parrot for them Eventually after that, they'll start talking even when you don't talk to them

What's a servitor?

@Kei Wendt - jump a habit with a name

Ah

Yuka

Have you done any research?

Yes

ive done some research and i feel like im ready but im not entirely sure i should yet.. do i continue reaserching or do i start creating the tulpa?

🪷

ive done some research and i feel like im ready but im not entirely sure i should yet.. do i continue reaserching or do i start creating the tulpa?

Research and ponder I say. Without being completely resolved that you can, want to and will do it, you won't be able to do it anyway.

I guess think about it for a couple weeks and see if you're still interested (edited)

9:35 PM

Did you look over the thing Aya posted?

Yuka

Did you look over the thing Aya posted?

huh

ayelike

Research and ponder I say. Without being completely resolved that you can, want to and will do it, you won't be able to do it anyway.

my dyslexia doesn't understand that im so sorry

Yuka

I guess think about it for a couple weeks and see if you're still interested (edited)

stuff like that will interest me for years

🪷

huh

This post from a bit ago

https://canary.discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895651266330644/1087411280194850857

ohh lemme read it brb! (edited)